Comment Etiquette
Well it's nice to know ya'll read my blog. I just want to remind everyone, that there is a certain etiquette we must follow when we are debating issues on my blog.
1. If you have something worthwhile to say, please put your name to it. Don't hide behind anonymity.
2. If you enter into a debate, please enter it by engaging the topic. Don't bring personalities into an issue. The question is whether you think something is right or wrong, not what you think of the person who said it.
3. Do not misquote people.
4. Do not impute motives.
Comments which fall outside these guidelines will be deleted.
1. If you have something worthwhile to say, please put your name to it. Don't hide behind anonymity.
2. If you enter into a debate, please enter it by engaging the topic. Don't bring personalities into an issue. The question is whether you think something is right or wrong, not what you think of the person who said it.
3. Do not misquote people.
4. Do not impute motives.
Comments which fall outside these guidelines will be deleted.
posted by Scotty at 9:45 PM
13 Comments:
I have a plan to post more on Christian education - covering different aspects each post. I will do this as time permits. :)
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Scotty, at 10:31 PM, May 16, 2005
Those are all fair enough requests, I hope you don't feel that I attacked you personally. I just disagreed with the strong delivery of your opinion. I do look forward to hearing more about your opinion on Christian education because it is an issue that I am in two minds about.
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Anita, at 9:21 AM, May 17, 2005
Come on man, you brain dead or something... you want to smash people who put words in your mouth? that's not on. i never put words in your mouth!
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Anonymous, at 9:24 AM, May 17, 2005
sorry.. that was just me being silly try to break all the rules at once!
:)
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Jonathan, at 9:26 AM, May 17, 2005
sorry.. that was just me being silly try to break all the rules at once!
:)
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Jonathan, at 9:26 AM, May 17, 2005
Hehe - I'm not sure if you managed to break Rule 1: "If you have something worthwhile to say, please put your name to it. Don't hide behind anonymity. "
If you don't have something worthwhile to say (which I think was the case in your comment), then not putting a name to it is fine.
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Nato, at 10:22 AM, May 17, 2005
Anita:
Strong delivery of an opinion (especially in such an important and life changing area) should be expected. We should be passionate about such things. This does not mean we should fall away from reasoned debate.
Debate on this question should have focussed around whether I was right in claiming some of the things I did - such as claiming that an education without God is anti-God. It should not have focussed on whether or not I think Hamish is fluffy-brained, since that was neither implied in the post, nor the subject of the post.
I can't promise that my opinions will not be strongly held and delivered. If this offends anyone; tough!
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Scotty, at 10:41 AM, May 17, 2005
Ok well I guess we have a point of difference, if we offend people then we lose their respect. I believe for myself that I should speak all things in love, if I am speaking in love then hopefully I won't offend people. Ok so telling me that my opinion was narrow minded and rude wasn't particularly loving I hear you say. Fair comment. I respect you for having strongly held opinions, you just lose me when with the delivery of them that offends me. I am concerned that your attitude to offending me with your delivery is 'well tough' Just because something is right doesn't mean that you should feel it is ok to offend people with it.
I was just thinking that if for example a single mom read that post, someone who struggled and was unable to provide a christian education for her children, she would be further heartbroken with the gruff delivery of a point she already knows too well.
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Anita, at 11:41 AM, May 17, 2005
Anita (or anyone else) could you give an example of how you would word Scott's last post (or part of it) in a way that doesn't offend anyone?
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Jonathan, at 12:10 PM, May 17, 2005
That post did not deal with the other options, it just spoke about secular education, so single mum, keep reading there is more to come.
In fact, I know personally of people who pay for the children of a single mum (whom I know) go to a Christian school. It is the role of the church to help in these issues.
Anita, there are people who will always be offended by me when I say something. I do not intend to do this, but there will always be a certain few who are challenged and get angry. Sometimes the response of other people is outside my control, and actually in their control.
I believe we are to speak the truth in love also. But we must speak the truth. The truth will often offend no matter how it is put.
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Scotty, at 1:14 PM, May 17, 2005
A little aside. Speaking in love doesn't absolutely guarantee people won't get offended.
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Scotty, at 1:18 PM, May 17, 2005
Exactly that is why i said 'hopefully'
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Anita, at 3:13 PM, May 17, 2005
Thought I'd continue the last post's comments here.
My throat is now raw from yelling at the screen while reading the last post's comments.
My turn. Read everything that follows as statements and logical conclusions. There are no personal attacks. If you disagree then state how you disagree with my logic. I'm not interested in emotional outbursts. They don't change fact or conclusion. They just cloud them.
* Truth divides. Jesus said that.
* There is no neutrality in spiritual life. Things being taught are either for or against God. Anon mentioned chemistry as a possible neutral topic. Far from it. Chemistry class is one of the best places to find evolution being taught. And here I'll state that evolution has no scientific foundation when viewed in light of all physical evidence.
* If God were to have used evolution then the Bible would be a lie. Scripture states death and suffering are a result of sin. Evolution states that death and suffering are part of it's process. If that is so, why did Jesus die? To save us from God's perfect creation process?
Enough on evolution. It's scientifically impossible but we can discuss that elsewhere. On to kids:
* The only way salt looses it's saltiness is through contamination. We are called to be salt in this world. Something strikingly different to the rest of it. Not neutral, nor acceptant of secular ideas. The only way our children are to keep their saltiness in a contaminated environment is through being resistant to it through spiritual maturity. Children, let's face it, are not equipped to resist secular ideas. If clean cloth is placed on filthy cloth will the clean cloth clean the filthy one or will the clean cloth become filthy also? Children should be protected by their parents and church (and/or Christian school) until such time as they are able to protect themselves from spiritual bombardment.
* Sending kids into secular schools to be salt amongst their classmates before they are able to resist contamination increases the chances that they will become as secular as their classmates. I remember the phrase used throughout scripture "Father's teach your children that they'll not forget to teach their children". Back in the OT the Godly Father's didn't teach their children to defend their faith and in one single generation the whole population lost it's Christianity and went off worshiping Baal.
As there is no neutrality, and as children are not able to protect themselves, why would we offer them to secular education to be taught Godly ways? I'll go further than Scott. (opinion here) We are irresponsible as representatives of God's kingdom is we fail to bring up our children in a Godly environment - in and out of school.
You may now flame me, or not.
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Allan, at 5:14 PM, May 17, 2005
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